Regulating Artificial Intelligence

YOU FOR JOINING US. THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS APPROVED NEW RULES FOR THE USE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS SAYS THIS CREATES ONE OF THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE AI CENTERED FRAMEWORKS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. FLORIDA'S COMMISSIONER OF EDUCATION, DOCTOR HENRY MACK SAYS THE RULES GOVERNING THE USE OF AI AND EDUCATIONAL TECHNOLOGY IN ALL OF FLORIDA'S SCHOOL DISTRICTS, CHARTER SCHOOLS AND 28 STATE COLLEGES UNDER THE NEW RULES. SCHOOLS WILL HAVE TO SPELL OUT HOW STUDENTS AND TEACHERS CAN USE AI AND ADDRESS REQUIREMENTS FOR STUDENT SAFETY AND DATA PROTECTION. >> THEY EMPOWER PARENTS. EMPOWER FACULTY, THE EMPOWER STUDENTS. THEY PROTECT ACADEMIC INTEGRITY. STUDENT INFORMATION, PRIVACY AND THE PRIMACY OF LEARNING. AI IS AN ENHANCEMENT. IT'S A SUPPLEMENT, DOESN'T SUPPLANT IT'S A COMPLEMENTARY. >> SCHOOLS AND CHARTER SCHOOLS HAVE UNTIL JULY FIRST OF 2027 TO ADOPT AND IMPLEMENT THE POLICIES. THE NEW AI RULES IN FLORIDA SCHOOLS JUST APPROVED AMIDST GROWING CONCERNS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ABOUT HOW TO REGULATE THE EMERGING TECHNOLOGY. FOR MORE ON THE DISCUSSIONS OVER REGULATIONS I I'M NOW JOINED BY MORGAN SEE PLUMBER THE VICE PRESIDENT OF POLICY DESIGN AND DELIVERY FOR AMERICANS FOR RESPONSIBLE INNOVATION. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY. >> OF COURSE, HENRY, THANKS FOR HAVING ME. REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE. >> CAN YOU FIRST TELL US ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION? >> YEAH, OF AMERICANS FOR RESPONSIBLE INNOVATION OR ERA IS A C 4 NONPROFIT PUBLIC ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS. SO WE ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE I WHICH I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE VERY RIGHTLY BELIEVE, IS GOING TO BE A POSITIVELY TRANSFORMATIVE TECHNOLOGY BEFORE THE AMERICAN PUBLIC AND FOR THE WORLD MAKING SURE THAT THAT TECHNOLOGY IS DEVELOPED IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY, MEANING IN A WAY THAT HAS THE RIGHT SAFEGUARDS AND PREVENTS INJURY, DOESN'T RISK OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AS WE DEVELOP THAT TECHNOLOGY AND HE'S BROADLY AND BENEFICIAL TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE. >> WHY ARE THERE NO NATIONWIDE REGULATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO AI? >> YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE REASONS FOR THAT. BUT I THINK ONE IS, YOU KNOW, THE DELIBERATE NATURE OF OUR DEMOCRATIC PROCESS IS ONE OF DEBATING COUNCIL AND DISCUSSION. AND SO, YOU KNOW, ONE REASON IS LIKE OUR MACHINERY OF GOVERNMENT JUST TENDS TO MOVE A BIT SLOWER THAN IN SOME OTHER FORMS OF GOVERNMENT. YOU KNOW, FOR MOST OF US, WE BELIEVE THAT THAT IS A FEATURE, NOT A BUG OF OUR SYSTEM. BUT WHAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DOES MEAN IS THAT IT DOES SOMETIMES STRUGGLE TO CATCH UP TO RAPIDLY EMERGING SIT SCENARIOS AND SITUATIONS LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. I THINK ANOTHER REASON THAT THAT'S TRUE IS THIS IS A REALLY COMPLICATED TECHNOLOGY. YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT IS GENERALLY TRUE? THAT IS IT REQUIRES VERY TECHNICAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE TECHNOLOGY IS DOING, WHY IT'S THE WAY IT'S PERFORMING. AND THAT ALSO REQUIRES A DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT KIND OF HARM'S MIGHT COME FROM THAT TECHNOLOGY. AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS THE CONSTANT BALANCING ACT THAT EXISTS IN A LOT OF OTHER INDUSTRIES, RIGHT? AUTOMOBILES, AVIATION, COLOR, ENERGY SURROUNDING LIKE, HEY, THERE ARE POTENTIAL HARMS AND DANGERS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REGULATE AGAINST. BUT WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO INHIBIT THE INNOVATION ABOUT TECHNOLOGY AND ALLOW FOR A WORLD WHERE AMERICA FALLS BEHIND. AND SO THIS REALLY IS KIND OF A TRIPLE LINDY FOR REGULATORS AND CONGRESS AND THE ADMINISTRATION TO KIND OF PULL OFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE A GOOD, ROBUST SET, A FRAMEWORK, SOME GUARDRAILS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROTECTING THE PUBLIC. >> WHAT KIND OF SPECIFIC GUARDRAILS DOES YOUR ORGANIZATION WANT TO SEE IN PLACE? >> SUES. IT'S ACTUALLY FAIRLY FAIRLY SIMPLE. SO THE NUMBER NUMBER ONE FOR US IS CLEAR FEDERAL SAFETY STANDARDS. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT MOST OF THE OTHER TECHNOLOGIES AND PRODUCTS, THE INTERACT WITH THE AMERICAN PUBLIC THAT HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO DO SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC SAFETY HARM OR POTENTIALLY THREATEN OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. AND HERE I AM THINKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE CYBER OR, YOU KNOW, SORT OF BIO THREAT UPLIFT. IF YOU'RE A PERSON WHO WANTS TO LEARN HOW TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, DANGEROUS DISEASES AND RELEASED THEM TO THE PUBLIC. WE NEED CLEAR FEDERAL SAFETY STANDARDS AND THOSE SAFETY STANDARDS CAN'T JUST BE WRITTEN BY THE DEVELOPERS WHO ARE DEVELOPING THIS TECHNOLOGY. WE HAVE DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS AS COME IN THIS COUNTRY THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC AND IT IS THE JOB OF THOSE INSTITUTIONS TO HELP SET THOSE STANDARDS. THAT'S TRUE OF MOST OTHER INDUSTRIES. WE BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD ALSO BE TRUE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. THE SECOND THING THAT WE'RE INTERESTED IN IS PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY MAKING SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT STANDARD IS BEING SENT, HOW THE DEVELOPERS ARE MEETING THOSE STANDARDS AND WHETHER THEIR MEETING THOSE STANDARDS AND HAVING TRUST AND CONFIDENCE IN OUR DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS TO HOLD THOSE DEVELOPERS ACCOUNTABLE IN WHEN THEY FAIL TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS. SO MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S AN ACCOUNTABILITY MECHANISM AND UNDER WHAT WE CALL AN ASSURANCE MECHANISM IS A VITAL PART OF RIGHT ADVOCATES FOR. AND THE 3RD IS THIS QUESTION OF BROAD TRANSPARENCY, RIGHT? 1, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT ABOUT THIS TECHNOLOGY IN TERMS OF OUR ABILITY TO REGULATE IT IS THE SPEED, THE EXPONENTIAL SPEED AT WHICH IT MOVES. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS BEING ABLE TO TRACK THE VERY FOR THIS, THE EDGES OF THAT DEVELOPMENT FRONTIER ON THIS TECHNOLOGY BY WANTED BY MONITORING WHAT WE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT RIGHT TO THIS IDEA THAT AS AI CONTINUES TO IMPROVE AND CONTINUE TO IMPROVE AN EXPONENTIAL RATE, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE KIND OF FIRST 2 PILLARS THAT I TALKED ABOUT, THE SAFETY, THIS FEDERAL SAFETY STANDARDS IN THE INSURANCE THAT COMES WITH MAKING SURE THAT THOSE STANDARDS ARE MET, THAT THOSE ARE UPDATED AT THE RATE AND PACE THAT ARE NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. >> HOW CONCERNED SHOULD AMERICANS BE REGARDING AI AND ITS TO TO REALLY SELF THE SELF RELIANT THIS CAPABILITIES? >> YEAH, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND I THINK THE I THINK, YOU KNOW, SORT OF OUR TAKE MY TAKE IS THAT I THINK AMERICANS ARE RIGHT TO BE CONCERNED. AND IF YOU LOOK AT POLLING DATA, IT OVERWHELMINGLY THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SPEED IN RATES THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY SEEMS TO BE ADVANCING. WHAT I THINK WE WANT TO, I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO GUARD AGAINST THOSE PANIC RIGHT. THERE ARE TONS AND TONS OF PSYCHOLOGICAL STUDIES THAT INDICATE THAT THAT MAKING DECISIONS EITHER AS A GROUP OR AS INDIVIDUALS AND A PANICKED ENVIRONMENT IS THE ABSOLUTE WRONG WAY. WORST WAY TO MAKE DECISIONS. SO I THINK THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IS CONCERNED. I THINK THE RIGHT TO BE CONCERNED. I DO YET THINK THAT WE SHOULD OR HAVE REACHED A STATE OF SORT OF GENERAL PANIC AND ALARM THIS IS A TECHNOLOGY WITH IT. ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL. BENEFICIAL UPSIDE. WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REGULATING AT THE RIGHT WAY TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC FROM ANY OF THE DOWNSIDE RISKS. >> NOW, LAST YEAR, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT REMOVED PREVIOUS RESTRICTIONS FROM PRIOR ADMINISTRATIONS TO ADVANCE AI DEVELOPMENT. HOW HAS THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IMPACTED THE ADVANCEMENTS IN AI? >> YEAH, I THINK FOR FOR REASONS THAT RELATE TO DREARY JUNIOR STRATEGIC COMPETITION AND ECONOMIC BENEFITS AND POTENTIAL PRODUCTIVITY GAINS. I THINK THE GENERAL APPROACH FROM THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE PART OF THE EUPHEMISM A BIT SORT OF LET THEM COOK, RIGHT? THEY THEY SEE THE TRANSFORMATIVE INCREDIBLY BENEFICIAL POTENTIAL UPSIDES OF THIS TECHNOLOGY. THEY ARE REALLY, REALLY COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT THE AMERICAN PUBLIC AND THE AMERICAN ECONOMY IN PARTICULAR IS ABLE TO REAP THOSE BENEFITS. AND THOSE ARE LIKE REALLY REASONABLE POSITIONS TO TAKE. I THINK THE I THINK WITH THAT, I THINK WITH THAT EXPANSION AND THE DESIRE TO PURSUE THOSE BENEFITS HAS OPENED UP, THOUGH, IS A NEW RUNWAY, ALMOST CARTE BLANCHE FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. RIGHT? THERE'S THIS OLD MAXIM IN SILICON VALLEY. THE NOW IS KIND OF THIS TIRED TROPE OF MOVE FAST AND BREAK THINGS. AND I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION'S INSTINCT TO MOVE FAST IS LIKE NOT NECESSARILY A BAD ONE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE REALLY, REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE END UP BREAKING ALONG THE WAY. >> SHOULD AMERICANS BE FEARFUL OF AI MOVING FORWARD, ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE NO RULES IN PLACE RIGHT NOW. >> I THINK I THINK I THINK THE AMERICAN PUBLIC IS RIGHT TO BE CONCERNED IF WE CONTINUE TO LIVE IN AN ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH THIS TECHNOLOGY IS ADVANCING, NOT JUST INCREMENTALLY, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST SLOWLY BUT EXPONENTIALLY DAY OVER DAY WEEK, OVER WEEK, YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN THE SPACE FOR A LITTLE OVER 2 YEARS. AND YOU KNOW, IT IS IT HAS BEEN MARKED TO ME THE WAYS IN WHICH THIS TECHNOLOGY IS ADVANCING AND AND IS ADVANCING IN WAYS THAT LIKE JUST DIDN'T SEEM POSSIBLE ABOUT A YEAR AGO, ABOUT 6 MONTHS ABOUT GO ABOUT 3 YEAR, ABOUT 3 MONTHS AGO. SO I THINK A WORLD WHERE THAT CONTINUES TO BE TRUE. IT AND THERE ARE NO FEDERAL GUARDRAILS THAT IS A WORLD IN WHICH THE AMERICAN PUBLIC SHOULD BE CONCERNED AND CANDIDLY SHOULD BE DEMANDING ACTION FROM THEIR STATE AND FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES. >> ALL RIGHT. MORGAN SEE PLUMBER WITH AMERICANS FOR RESPONSIBLE INNOVATION. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY. >> THANKS SO MUCH, TOUGHER. APPRECIATE THE TIME.